Juvenal, Satires X, and XI [?120 C.E.]
Satire X--
1)
After J's famous attack on the power of fear and desire
(Satire X), he offers another view of Destiny: "What you ask for,
you get." How might that
proposition explain Sophocles' Oedipus?
2)
Praising the safety of poverty, J asserts "Garrets are very
seldom / The object of military raids" (205).
What has changed about the
world in our era which makes this assertion false, and
is it really a change?
3) Following (he thinks) the example of Heraclitus and Democritus (see note p. 218), J urges the reader to cry and to laugh at the everyday details of "civilized" life (206). What's so funny about this stuff‑‑what's so sad? What might we point out for similar treatment today?
4)
What is J's message for world‑conquering Rome based on the
lives of Cicero, Demosthenes, Hannibal, and Alexander?
(See also ll. 290‑93, bottom of
137, Satire VI.)
5)
Moving back a step from "Death alone reveals the puny
dimensions / Of our human frame" (211), J next lists the ills of
old age. What value does he
ascribe (212‑14) to dying soon
enough?
6)
J's last shots at human hopes for happiness come at the
expense of well‑born, attractive youths.
He seems to have distorted a
narrative known to the historian, Tacitus, in order
to sum up his point (see note, p. 225).
What is J's logic here?
How is being born wealthy and handsome like being singled out for
Messalina's lustful attentions?
Satire XI--
1)
Satire XI attacks wealthy gourmets and connoisseurs.
What kinds of values are
destroyed by their pursuit of rarities (227)?
2)
Claiming, like Socrates, that self‑knowledge will protect
one from some types of disaster, J urges a modest country life on
his readers (Cf. Horace, II.2, "Ofellus").
In what ways does he claim a
taste for artistic decoration has ruined Roman life?
3)
How does J's routine racism (231 and elsewhere) fit his
overall project of moral criticism?
How might the values that
enable these satires also make them racist?
(Also see 232‑33, Satire VI,
for similarly sexist presumptions about women's
character.)
4)
J winds up XI with an aphorism which Green translates
"restraint gives an edge to all our pleasures."
How might this assertion
explain what is wrong with the targets of J's satire?
How might Horace have put the same idea?